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Tagati
09-20-2005, 11:40 PM
I have had my pally at Lvl 60 for a while now (epic mount and most of the LF set) and have put a lot of thought into what I would like to change about the class. Some of the things I have seen other people suggest sound good to me, lake controllable DPS and/or just plane more DPS. Others I honestly don’t care about either way ie.More healing ability’s (I’m ret and have no interest in going Holy). But the one thing I would like to see is the buff duration’s lengthened. By a lot. I’m not talking 10m or even 15. I’m talking 30-60min. I fail to see how this would make us overpowered, or that it is unreasonable to ask for this. But it would make the game so much more fun for us.

No more spending 1-2min of every 5 buffing a 40 man raid. And best of all no more having other classes tell me that there Buff has runout while I’m off tanking a leet mob/fighting for my life. How good would it be to give everyone the buff they want (and god knows they all know what they want don’t they) then forget about them and PLAY THE GAME for a while. I don’t know about you guys but I don’t call being a buffbot fun.

Don’t get me wrong the other changes people are suggesting all have merit, (I do like the idea of changing the skill tree so that build specialisation actually makes a difference) and I’m not knocking any of you for suggesting them. But I think this one little change would make such a difference to our game experience.

Lococard
09-21-2005, 01:26 PM
Since no GM's actually play paladins its hard for blizzard to make changes for things no one tests =P

I would be much happier with a 10 minute buff. But i would be satisfied with a 15 min buff.


And we need some offensive damage spells to increase our control of DPS.

And Hammer of Wrath is faily crap for PvP. Most people run when they get around 50%. I think HoW should be moved up to 40%

Bobbelix
09-22-2005, 05:11 AM
Hi to you both above!

If the imbadin gets buffs with a length if 10 - 15 mins, then:
- a shamy should also get totems with 1000 hit points and 5 mins duration! ^^
- the priest should get a shield with double strength and 2 - 3 mins and inner fire with 30 mins duration
- a warriors battle shout should last for 30 mins
- the thorns of the druid should last for 1 hour.....

can't make it right for everybody!

Lococard
09-22-2005, 06:33 AM
Not really.

Just change the paladin buffs. All the other class buffs are fine the way they are.

A totem isnt really a buff, more like a seal compared to a paladin. And pallies seals only last 30 seconds.

Tagati
09-22-2005, 09:27 PM
And your not makeing the pally anymore powerfull. 99% of pallys are buffed the whole time they play anyway (except say when standing IF) all it would be doing is letting us play warcraft instead of playing buffahoy. infact the chr's who would benfit most would be everyone but the pally's because they would allways be buffed. as for shammys I really dont care about what anyone does to them, I dont play one so its not my place to comment.
BTW I want 30-60min not 10-15 :P

Moogle Stiltzkin
11-15-2005, 11:28 AM
First i want to say kudos Tagati for sticking up for our class :)

My first character was a priestess but i found the whole stay back and heal kinda boring.... everybody wants you to go a light priest and just heal -.-;; wheres the fun in looking at peoples health bars 24/7 :/ lol.

So i went for a paly as we can wear cool plate armor, do melee attacks (finaly), and still be able to heal ourselves.

Little did i know that Palys suck compared to warriors in terms of 1 handed weapons with Shields. Their better at it then us :[ i'm sad to say. Furthermore they can equip ranged weapons whereas we can't equip any period ( forget that long range spell you get later on. ) Warriors can equip 2 single handed weapons where as we can only hold one :/

And worse of all is the fact that it is hard for palys compared to other classes to catch someone. We got to do it the old fashion way and run up to the prey and stun them. Compared to a warrior that can cross a long distance in a flash and stun, were pretty bad off cause we'd be seen coming a mile off and the prey runs away -.-;; And did i mention we have a lack of long range weaponry :[

What Blizzard and their gms need to do is stop nerfing us palys and start fixing us up.

Those times when Justice prevented players from running away are long gone -.-; and palys must resort to normal means of jumping someone ( most often relying on a team mate )

Also why should warriors be better than palys at shields ? Palys should own in that area >:[ I guess it is the fact that we depend on our seal of command to double our damage, thus palys are most often inclined to go the way of the two handed weapons with most damage despite how slow they are compared to single handed, thus flushing shield ideas down the tubes :[

Buffs do need to be prolonged more, 15 minutes at least. All my buffs last 5 minutes and it gets annoying having to recast every 5 minutes -.-; Most often i never buff unless im going into battle :/

Thats the end of my rant :roll:

ps: Palys aren't priests so stop moaning for us to heal as if we were main healers :roll:

Djzombie
01-03-2006, 05:46 PM
I'd like to say, congratulations. Check the 1.9 patch notes.

- Due to significant talent changes, all Paladins' talent points will
be refunded and can be respent. Training costs for all talent
spell/ability replacements have been significantly reduced.
- Paladins can now learn Greater Blessings for the following spells:
+ Blessing of Might
+ Blessing of Wisdom
+ Blessing of Kings
+ Blessing of Sanctuary
+ Blessing of Salvation
Greater Blessings will cast the associated blessing on all raid
members that share the same class as the target. For example, if you
cast Greater Blessing of Might on a warrior in your raid, all
warriors in the raid party will receive Blessing of Might from you.
Additionally, Greater Blessings have an increased duration of 15
minutes. These blessings require twice as much mana as the single
target version, as well as a reagent. Paladins can purchase these new
Greater Blessing spells from their class trainers.

Now, you've got 15 minute buffs... and when you cast a buff on a warrior, it casts it on the rest of the warriors in the 40 man raid. Should save lots of time, lots more time for stabby stabby.

Unrelated: I moved servers, and picked up hunter instead, because people were saying how bad paladin was post 40, and I didn't want to deal with it. I come from FFXI, and that was difficult enough. Anyways, hunter is fun, I enjoy it alot. These new updates might make me start an alt thats a pally on my new server. I previously had pally @ 20 and hunter @ 15 on the old server.